FIFA 20 Pack Odds Guide – Pack Probability in FUT

FIFA 20 Pack Odds Guide

It is possible to see in-game what are your chances of pulling a premium player before opening a pack on the FUT store. Find out the probability of any pack and how you can use FIFA 20 pack odds for your own good.

 

Introduction to the FIFA 20 Pack Odds

Pack Probability in FUT

It was in FIFA 19 that EA revealed the odds of getting a highly-rated player in every pack available on the FUT store. In other words, pack probabilities detailed the likelihood of what you get in every pack that you purchase. This was to make it more transparent when buying points on the store to purchase packs and highlights just how rare some players are. EA believes that providing you with this information will help you make decisions on where you want to invest your FIFA Points, FUT Coins and time in order to build your best FUT squad.

You can check for yourself the pack odds going to the store screen, highlighting the pack you wanna know and selecting ‘Show Pack Probabilities’ (space on PC; options on consoles). Because there are thousands of player items in FUT, they are categorized by item type and rating. The percentages that you see are the minimum probability of getting one or more players in the ratings range and category listed. For example, if a category and rating have a 100% probability, you’re guaranteed to receive at least one item within that category.

Any probability percentages that you see are on a pack-by-pack basis and are not cumulative. That means that each pack opening is an independent event; opening multiple packs does not change the likelihood of being awarded an item from a specific category. If you flip a coin three times and get heads each time, you still have a 50% chance of getting heads if you flip the coin again.

FIFA 20 Pack Odds are calculated by simulating the opening of a very large number of packs, for each pack in the Store. The number of packs opened in a simulation varies based on rarity, but it will always be enough to be statistically valid. EA then re-run this process with every content update. The Probabilities are updated regularly during the year, especially during promotions, to indicate the chances of opening higher rated players. Before buying a pack, you can see not only the probabilities of that pack but also the date the last percentage was calculated at. Some specific campaigns, like Team of the Year, feature rare content. In some packs, the rarity of this content category may be less than 1%, and within that there will be a wide range of probabilities.

Even disclosing FIFA 20 pack odds, Electronic Arts was banned from selling FIFA Points in Belgium with more countries, like Netherlands and Germany, ready to follow the same steps. As you will see later on this article, the pack probability that EA is revealing is not transparent enough. They will probably change the way how they show this information in the coming titles or they will need to use another strategy to convince gambling regulators that there is nothing wrong with FUT.

FIFA 20 Pack Odds Guide - Pack Probability in FUT
 
 

FUT Pack Odds

All FIFA 20 Pack Odds

Taking the pack of the above image as an example, it’s guaranteed that you would find at least one gold player when opening a Prime Gold Players Pack. You would also have decent chances to pull one or more 79+ rated players and you would have 5,4% chances to find at least one 87+ rated player there.

EA has made public the probabilities of more than 20 packs and we have compiled them all in a single table. Please, be aware that odds are updated regularly and you will find a few differences depending on when you checked. In the last months of the season, for example, you will have more chances to pack a high rated item but just because there are more rated cards than when the game was released. For that reason, we used average odds on this table that may differ from the ones you see in-game.

PACK NAME
PACK ODDS [%]
  45+ 60+ 62+ 63+ 64+ 65+ 70+ 72+ 73+ 74+ 75+ 82+ 83+ 85+ 86+ 87+ 88+ 90+
Bronze 100 87 62 40 12                          
Premium Bronze 100 92 75 58 33                          
Premium Bronze Players 100 100 99 79                          
Silver 100 100 100 100 100 100 62 27 11 3,5                
Premium Silver 100 100 100 100 100 100 71 41 23 10                
Silver Players 100 100 100 100 100 100 97   38                  
Premium Silver Players 100 100 100 100 100 100 85 31                
Gold 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 7,7 3,5          
Premium Gold 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 19 4,6          
Premium Electrum Players 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 41   4,3        
Jumbo Premium Gold 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 42   4,6        
Premium Gold Players 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 53     4,1      
Rare Gold 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 58     4,3      
Mega 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 79       5,8    
Prime Gold Players 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 80       5,4    
Rare Players 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 95         6,6  
Prime Gold Defenders 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 79       3,7    
Prime Gold Midfielders 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 79       3,7    
Prime Gold Forwards 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 79       3,7    
League Prime Players 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 94         2,9  
Rare Mega 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 92         4,2  
Rare Gold Defenders 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 96         6,3  
Rare Gold Midfielders 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 96         6,3  
Rare Gold Forwards 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 96         6,3  
Jumbo Rare Players 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 99           2,5
Ultimate 100 100 100 100 100 100 100   100   100 99           3,2

 
 
 

How We Can Use Pack Probability in FUT

What’s wrong with FIFA 20 pack odds

FUT Pack Odds was a great step but we would like to go further. Wouldn’t be great to know what are the chances of packing an Icon or any other player? What about knowing how much we have to spend, on average, to pull a specific card? We would also love to calculate the average return estimated value for every pack. Unfortunately, nothing of this is possible because the data provided by Electronic Arts is not good enough.

Let’s look at an example to understand better why we are limited. During the Ultimate Scream promotion, one of the first FIFA 20 events, Prime Gold Players Packs were made available on the FUT store. According to the information provided at that time, there were 1,1% chances of pulling at least one Ultimate Scream player from that pack. Since we tend to focus on the average, we are tempted to say that would need to buy 91 packs in order to pack one of these cards. However, this average event probability is still fairly low. The easiest way to look at this is to consider the probability of not getting a card, which is 98.9%. We assume that we continue until we get at least one card. The probability of not getting a card with 91 packs is 98.9% ^ 91 = 36.5% which implies that you have 63.5% chance to get at least 1 card after using 91 packs. Similarly, there is 90% chance to get at least one card with 208 packs. Since we are talking about probabilities, it wouldn’t be guaranteed (the same way, you could pack it before). From here we can calculate how much you would spend in average and compare with other packs to see which one would be the best option. Sounds cool, right? Well, that’s because we are talking about special cards and EA gave us exact the odds for those cards. However, for the rest of the items we only know the odds for 82+ and 87+ rated players (see the table above, please). We have no idea of the probabilities of packing players from other ratings. In other words, we don’t know what’s inside of each pack.

Let’s look at another example. We will try to calculate the chances of packing Cristiano Ronaldo NIF item from a Rare Players Pack. Since there are 885 rare gold items in the game and a 50k pack features 12 rare gold players, the odds of packing him are 0,13%. Just as a reference, we used again a binomial distribution to calculate his odds: 1-(884/885)^12. In other words, you would have to buy around 75 rare players packs to pack him. Before you say it, we know that it is not true. In order to calculate these odds, we made a few assumptions but there is one that is not acceptable: card weights are different from player to player. Ronaldo is obviously rarer than the other gold players, so the probability of packing him is much lower than 0,13%. Unfortunately, we don’t know which one it is. Not just for him, but for everyone. That’s why it is not possible to calculate the odds of packing a specific player.

In sum, EA really needs to be more transparent. They are just showing us a small part of the odds. Here is what we would believe EA would have to do in a future edition:

1 Add Pack Odds for All Packs
It should include for the ones available in ‘My Packs’, and not only for promo packs. If EA is disclosing packs odds voluntarily, then they should do it for all packs and not just for the ones in which they may be accused of gambling.

2 Add Pack Odds for All Ratings
We need to know exactly what’s inside each pack. Using Rare Player Packs as an example, instead of 75+, 82+ and 88+, it should show 75, 76,…,87 and 88.

3 Discriminate the Exact Pack Odds
For the pack odds lower than 1%, it should show the exact probability with a minimum of two decimal places. For example, saying that it is lower than 1% isn’t exactly the same of saying it is 0,25%.

4 Reveal each Cardweigh
This would be the highest stage of transparency but unfortunately, EA will never do it. They don’t want to show us how low is the card weight of the most popular players and also they don’t want to tell us that they probably change it along the year and maybe according to the user profile. Now that the official database was turned off, it is even more unlikely to see EA doing something about this.

Until that happens, it will be almost impossible to calculate everything we want to know because there are too many factors that we don’t know.

 

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